they have to go back twice, and part of the game here in pennsylvania was when you went in for a free i.d., they ran you through all the hoops to see if you could get a dlbs and then if that filed, said, by the way, here is a free i.d. that's much easier to get. and, you know, it just -- look, guys, we got to get back to a place, and frankly past gop chairs like ken melman have talked about this, where we try to win on the ideas. where it's not about suppression, not about intimidation. just running an honest race and cutting bait with the nasty tactics they seem to drag out whenever they get nervous. >> let me ask jim burn, the chair 69 party, have the african-american community been emotionally responsive to this? did they know they were the target in large part of this effort? >> absolutely, chris. we were worried a year ago about finding something to motivate and excite our base, african-americans, students, seniors, hispanics. the president has been effective this year in doing that, but in a way i have to thank mr.